Comments on: Which system works best

by: GW

Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:51:28 +0000

The whole system would work if people left it alone as is. There seems to be an inordinate amount of dead weight in the system in the way of cuty-pie hire-ees who liven up the atmosphere of the office with their looks for the express cheer of the management. When those employees are under the gun because of higher wages going to productive employees that angers management and friends of management and all hell breaks loose and management goes after every penny they can to try of offset the budget required to keep the cutie-pies. I wonder if this is a symptom of what happened to Rome just before it fell??? Ya Think.

by: MrPostman

Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:16:58 +0000

Evaluated Routes are the way to go. I can beat the evaluation everyday and go home. Now that is a great benefit & I get left alone like the rural carriers. Simply come in, do my job, and go home early. For the Postal Service it gives them consistency of cost everyday. My only wish is that they would let us have big routes if we wanted & small routes if I want to go home on time every day. I feel comfortable that I can beat their evalution at my age now. When I get over 50 it might be a different story, but it still seems pretty fair.

by: GW

Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:19:52 +0000

That $9.00/hour is offset by the USPS lackluster history of paying them on time, (especially around Christmas.) Also, they are paying our local HCR’s way under the current rate for gas and expenses. So if you offset that against their supposed $9.00/hour they are really making closer to $7.00/hour. They are also paid a small uniform allowance, which will never cover the cost of uniforms. If they require them to pay for shoes that only one distributor supplies, as a result of safety, they will be paying over $100.00/pair for shoes as the City Carrier now does. IF they have an accident and aren’t wearing those shoes they are subject to discipline.

by: txranger101

Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:43:46 +0000

Well, think about this. We just got notified that there will be no more rural routes in our city. All new construction, not currently on an existing route, will be bid on as HCR’s. That, my friends, means minimum wage people carrying the mail. I know of two offices in our areas with HCR’s and they are averaging $9.00 an hour. This is a coming trend as the postal service wants to eliminate as many as 16,000 aux and regular routes.

by: Administrator

Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:37:37 +0000

They can save even more than that by paring down their personnel system, using one system to govern all carriers, using their rural staff on swings after completing their routes, which they are frustrated now by their inability to use Regular Rural carriers, getting more accomplished in any given day without managers having to deliver express or swings, saving space by having a single system on 2 pieces of equipment making room for more city style routes, maximizing their space needs and forcing delivery straight to the street. They can maximize their carrier force this way and save that $6.00 per hour. They can save a bundle on the overtime they pay rural carriers who have their overtime figured into their retirement where the city overtime is not. The city carriers are free to invest that ovetime money in IRA’s and other investment vehicles, but their overtime pay is not part of the retirement formula like the rural crafts.

by: MFEMFEM MFEMFEMF

Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:40:09 +0000

If that chart is correct, and I have no reason to question it, why would the USPS want to change a system that is saving them 6 to 9 dollars per hour of work?

by: Administrator

Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:52:17 +0000

Some interesting financial information about us:
	Work Hours:	Pay For Hours:	Ave. Per Hour:
City Delivery:	432,451	$15,384,300	$35.58
Mail Processing:	308,892	10,557,700	$34.18
Customer Services:	214,796	7,404,300	$34.47
Rural Delivery:	164,474	4,699,400	$28.57
Customer Services and Sales:	12,418	472,600	$38.06
Administration	62,260	2,319,800	$37.26

by: mck88

Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:38:40 +0000

unfortunately the evaluated system is dying with the postal services insistence that there be no undertime.
Mgt is quick to say that the USPS will never do away with it but the carriers/an arbitrator may make that decision for them with the next contract.

Sad for all I believe.
It was good for the first 18 yrs but the last 3 have been he!!

by: Administrator

Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:33 +0000

William,
You are becoming one of the fewer and fewer that can do that. We still have some sweetheart routes, the longer mileage routes that get the 12 minutes per mile therefore need less boxes say 350 to 400 boxes to make a livable wage. Yes there are days for all of us where we can make under evaluation.

If you are in one of the larger populated areas, your route will be smaller, therefor less of those 12 minutes per mile miles and more catalogs, parcels and special class mailings needed to make a livable wage.

by: William Faulkner

Thu, 08 Sep 2005 01:26:21 +0000

I love the evaluated system. You know exactly what you are worth, how much it pays, a choice of H, J, or K when applicable, and a reduction of work if you are overburdened. Everyone gets paid the same for the same work. If someone is able to figure out a more efficient way of doing his/her work it is to their advantage. Where else could I work less than 40 hours per week and be paid for 46, of which 6 is at overtime rates? And take a week vacation or sick leave and still be paid the 46 hours with the overtime? Not to mention “Free” Saturdays (which has nothing to do with the evaluated system, but they are nice). I have heard many City Carriers wish they were on evaluated time like we are.